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HPros
#1 Posted : Sunday, March 14, 2010 10:37:09 PM(UTC)
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One of the things we notice in this current version is the errors tossed by G and other engines when they find duplicate meta tags. It also leads to clumsy linking...


Bullet Drinkware looks fine as does Bullet Totes, but sending someone the sorted Bullet Drinkware Page 2 and they end up with a mess of query strings. In some cases we're finding corporate spam filters trap these URLs.



I remember reading some hacks around this, has anyone developed/tested further a plugin to pull clean URLs?
Marcus
#2 Posted : Monday, March 15, 2010 9:22:18 AM(UTC)
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We are considering appending "Page x" to meta information when paging in BV Commerce 6.
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#3 Posted : Monday, March 15, 2010 10:15:49 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: "HPros" Go to Quoted Post
One of the things we notice in this current version is the errors tossed by G and other engines when they find duplicate meta tags.

That's easy enough to fix. I think I may have even posted source code for how to do it some time ago.

Originally Posted by: "HPros" Go to Quoted Post
Bullet Drinkware looks fine as does Bullet Totes, but sending someone the sorted Bullet Drinkware Page 2 and they end up with a mess of query strings. In some cases we're finding corporate spam filters trap these URLs.

Having a query string in this scenario makes sense to me, because you're not talking about another 'page' but rather a different view of the same page (the sort order). I could potentially see using a rewritten URL for the page number. I'm not sure why SPAM filters would be blocking your emails/links because of a query string...that sounds like a problem on their end that should not cause you to alter your website to accommodate.
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Matt@9BallDesign
#4 Posted : Monday, March 15, 2010 12:37:17 PM(UTC)
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I'm wondering the impact of adding the nofollow attribute to pager links?

rel="nofollow"

According to it's intended use, it would save some link juice/page rank for other, more important, links on the page (like direct links to products and other categories).
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Marcus
#5 Posted : Monday, March 15, 2010 1:36:56 PM(UTC)
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rel="nofollow" might also mean that products on page 2+ would never get indexed.

Google won't follow pages forever but I would consider keep the "View All" link active and using rel="nofollow" on numbered pages.
Matt@9BallDesign
#6 Posted : Monday, March 15, 2010 1:57:51 PM(UTC)
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Sorry for the thread hijacking...

Can the "View All" link be re-introduced to BV5 via next service pack?


I think it's a necessary feature as it's literally on every ecomm site I see.

I think it's a Merchant Beware feature.... if you have 1200 items assigned to 1 category.... well.... you're going to get a 20 minute page load.

If the "View All" link is that detrimental to a shopping experience, I'd at least like to see a drop down box with the View 12, 24, 48, etc. per page sorting option. Allowing the merchant to define the increments would be even better!
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lcasey
#7 Posted : Monday, March 15, 2010 5:21:20 PM(UTC)
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I agree. Increments and 'View All' are very common and useful. It would be great if the admin could control the increments (and the presence or absence of 'View All') per category.


I hope it can be implemented.



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#8 Posted : Monday, March 15, 2010 9:57:33 PM(UTC)
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Matt,

Google doesn't always obey the 'nofollow' attribute; it's becoming more of a suggestion to Google than a rule. The canonical URL tag is another tool in the arsenal of managing duplicate content and link shaping.
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Aaron
#9 Posted : Monday, March 15, 2010 9:59:29 PM(UTC)
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The 'View All' and/or the 'View X items per page' features are both very nice. When I'm shopping I almost always click the 'View All' link on category pages as it's much faster. It's not that difficult to add this functionality into BV.
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Matt@9BallDesign
#10 Posted : Monday, March 15, 2010 10:20:47 PM(UTC)
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yeah, that's why I said "intended use"... :)
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Mark H
#11 Posted : Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:11:21 PM(UTC)
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Per Aaron's comment above, his code for appending page number to meta tags is as follows: (tested to work on version 5.5)

http://forums.bvcommerce...53072&g=61884#m61884

1. Move the PopulateCategoryInfo() method call from line 27 to the end of the If statement (approximately line 41). (Update from Mark H: It was more line line 45 in my customized template)

2. Add this code block to the bottom of the PopulateCategoryInfo() method

Code:
If Pager1.GetPageCount > 1 Then
Dim pagerInfo As String = " - page " & Pager1.CurrentPage & " of " & Pager1.GetPageCount

Me.PageTitle &= pagerInfo
Me.MetaKeywords &= pagerInfo
Me.MetaDescription &= pagerInfo
End If


On a side note, Thanks Aaron!
Matt@9BallDesign
#12 Posted : Friday, December 3, 2010 12:01:40 PM(UTC)
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I wanted to chime back in on this. A little over a week ago I updated a site's robot.txt file to see if I could control the indexing of pages with query strings.

A handful of pages (as a result of the pager) are getting tagged as duplicate content. The search.aspx page was getting indexed as well for individual keywords.

the simple update to the robots.txt file is to add:

Disallow: /*?

It's certainly speculative as too whether or not there's global support of it by engines, but I can say that after 1 week of close monitoring, the number of duplicate page title warnings in google's webmaster tools has decreased by a handful.



The original page that I want to have indexed is hanging out in google. I cannot say that this update is the end all fix as I did update the pager control to include the rel="nofollow" attribute to all links within it (#'s, Next, Previous, etc.).



But to see the dup's decrease and the desired page indexed correctly, it has to be playing a part.



I say give it a test if you are not updating the meta title with a page number.
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